The 100 W parasitic rumour, checked

Short version: another Powerwall 3 owner heard our pilot firmware might be quietly leaking 100 watts to the grid, around the clock. I checked our own data — five days, every five minutes — and we're not seeing it.

Here's the rumour in his words:

"With the current beta they do see an issue where the GW is constantly drawing 100W from the grid even though the home is using battery. Tesla told them yes they are aware of the issues but will be addressed in the final release in July. Do you see that grid draw on yours?"

The "GW" is the Tesla Gateway — the small box on the wall between our batteries and the house that decides what flows where. The claim: on the current pilot firmware, it's constantly pulling about 100 watts from the grid (a tenth of a kettle, all day every day) even when the batteries are supposed to be running the house. That's roughly 12 kWh a month, or about $3 at our rate, silently bought from the grid for no good reason. Annoying rather than catastrophic, but absolutely worth knowing about before you sign up.

So I pulled five days of our actual energy data (May 17–21, since the firmware fix landed on 14 May) and looked specifically at the minutes when the Powerwalls were running the house — 760 minutes in total. For 96% of those minutes, the grid line sat at exactly zero. Another 2% sat between 50 and 200 watts — right where a steady 100 W draw would pile up — but nowhere near often enough to fit a "constant" pattern. The only big grid number on any given day is the overnight window when we deliberately top the batteries up from cheap power; outside that, the meter is asleep.

Now — fair pushback. The Tesla iOS app screenshots above show GRID 0.1 kW, not zero. That's exactly the rumour's 100 W, so naturally you'd think yes, here it is. Amber agrees, but Amber just relays Tesla's number.

Here's the giveaway. The same Tesla API also feeds my own Power app, which I built to query our gear directly — and on its Tesla Live Power readout the Grid line is 0.00 kW to two decimals. Same data source, different rendering, no 0.1. Enphase Enlighten, which has its own meter on our install, also reads 0 kW. So the 0.1 kW you're seeing in the Tesla iOS app is iOS-side rounding from something small enough that two other systems looking at the same wires call it zero — not a continuous 100 W draw.

If you're also on the Tesla pilot — or watching your install go live in July — what does your grid line show overnight? And if you've got a second view of it (Enphase, an independent meter, a direct-API client), do the two agree?

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  1. Links:

    Part 4 — the pilot-program reveal that prompted this question:
    https://www.facebook.com/tesla.tripping/posts/10612584701…

    Part 3 — the fix that worked but couldn't be explained at the time:
    https://www.facebook.com/tesla.tripping/posts/10562855973…

    Part 2 — the May 7 beta-firmware reconnect that lasted two hours:
    https://www.facebook.com/tesla.tripping/posts/10514945111…

    Part 1 — install day for the Powerwall 3 and Expansion:
    https://www.facebook.com/tesla.tripping/posts/10513022144…

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  2. Thanks for following up Tom! 😁. I’m keen to see what my pyPowerwall dashboard says too as that’s continuously probing and not just depend on what Tesla app says. Good to know it may not be a thing to worry about. More confident now going to my install next week. Here’s hoping all my scripts to control the PW will continue to work without much troubleshooting.
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  3. Mark Stokes via Facebook ↗
    I’ve got PW’s that don’t seem to quite cover the entire home load. About 100W coming in when running off battery. Other monitoring systems (retail meter, Fronius smartmeter and Iammeter) can see it but Tesla doesn’t. Used to do this with two PW2’s and now does it with three PW3’s. Same gateway so it’s my prime suspect.

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  4. Dean Wissing via Facebook ↗
    I had pw3 added to my existing pw2 and have about 50-100W import constantly. Can been seen on pyPowerwall graphs and on the retail meter data. My firmware is 26.10.4. Its not a lot but works out to be 1.4kWh per day
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